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以足球联赛的形式办辩论,可能吗?

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发表于 2004-9-28 02:56:15 | 显示全部楼层

以足球联赛的形式办辩论,可能吗?

哇!

然后就渐渐有个好象FIFA将的协会,
然后有世界杯,
然后。。。
。。。
。。


糟糕!

想得太远了!!

回来,回来。。。

发表于 2004-9-30 00:39:57 | 显示全部楼层

以足球联赛的形式办辩论,可能吗?

the idea of league is a feasible one. in English debate arena, the varsity is using this idea for last one year. they called it as Malaysia Debating League(MDL).  it held every month, each varsity participating will take turn to host it. last round was in either UPM or Monash(cant remember for sure) the initial idea of this league is that the top 30 team in the leauge will get qualification to the National Varsity Debate(NVD) held every two year in UM(it's something like quanbian).(unfortunately this NVD has been shut off due to lack of sponsorship)

in english debate, they have this thing called 'the council', its function is to regulate the MDL.

it is a good idea to have such league but i would suggest that the league to use parliamentary style instead of the traditional style that the chinese debate has been using all this while. besides, we may have to debate in an informal way as the organiser may not have time to prepare for venue etc...

发表于 2004-10-1 01:34:29 | 显示全部楼层

以足球联赛的形式办辩论,可能吗?

parliamentary style is bored.......pls...........
发表于 2004-10-2 13:46:36 | 显示全部楼层

以足球联赛的形式办辩论,可能吗?

Chinese Debate is more flexible and challenging than English as we have "zi you bian" but the parlimentary style don't have
 楼主| 发表于 2004-10-3 00:51:39 | 显示全部楼层

以足球联赛的形式办辩论,可能吗?

要看怎么发挥。我看过几场英文辩论,对一些专门课题挖得相当深入。相比之下,华语辩论有时流于激烈有余而深度不足
发表于 2004-10-4 22:59:52 | 显示全部楼层

以足球联赛的形式办辩论,可能吗?

english debate also depends on which style the tournament is using.
there are generally four type of style, each requiring different preparation and ways of debate.

in english debate, u may be surprise where the motion only release 15minutes before the real debate starts,but the debater thru thier training has accumulate knowledge and statistic to various topics. therefore it do not require heavy preparation to only one or few topics that the chinese debate do now.it provide a wider and also a more 'relax' approach. and this is why i suggested parliamentary style, first, debater do not need a long preparation. second, style, presentation, impromp-tu speaking become the core of the debate, no such thing as looking at the speech anymore. third, debaters will be trained to think fast, clear and may be able to develope more talent in a shorter time.--this is the pros of it. the cons may be, in the initial stage of the tournament, there may not be sufficient talents. besides, too short of time may intimidate people away from debating...

as to the 'zi you bian' or i should say free fire round, we can always incorporate it into parliamentary style. the new style will be close to the all star match in UNITEN. my opinion is that, once the two style combined, it will includes the funs that parliamentary style has and the challege and flexibility that chinese style has.

if we really want to run debate like a league, the MDL i mentioned above would be a good format to refer. besides, the World's Debate in MMU cyber starting this 27 DIS would be another good example to refer.

anyway, only my 2 cents worth opinion, ready for criticisms. (",)

发表于 2005-1-4 21:28:04 | 显示全部楼层

以足球联赛的形式办辩论,可能吗?

是时候再来讨论这计划...
发表于 2005-1-4 21:55:44 | 显示全部楼层

以足球联赛的形式办辩论,可能吗?

这个是我很久以前的想法了。不过中国太大,地区性的吸引力又不大。很想看看脱离了胜负功利,华语辩论会是什么样子。也许会很有趣。
发表于 2005-1-4 23:12:52 | 显示全部楼层

以足球联赛的形式办辩论,可能吗?

下面引用由野兽修行2004/10/03 00:51am 发表的内容:
要看怎么发挥。我看过几场英文辩论,对一些专门课题挖得相当深入。相比之下,华语辩论有时流于激烈有余而深度不足

请不要侮辱华语辩论。。。。深度不足。。。可能是你不读多书。。。而不是华语辩论局限。。。。

身为班主,不了解华语辩论,像样吗??

请学国伟,好吗??

发表于 2005-1-5 07:22:12 | 显示全部楼层

以足球联赛的形式办辩论,可能吗?

倒~~~

不是侮辱不侮辱的东西,这是华语和英语辩论的分别。

而我觉得以联赛的方式来进行辩论是绝对可行的,因为英文辩论能做得到,为何我们不可以?但或许形式上可能需要稍微调整。在多媒体大学举行着的世界英文辩论赛有多达两百队参加,他们就是以联赛的方式进行。

发表于 2005-1-5 11:30:06 | 显示全部楼层

以足球联赛的形式办辩论,可能吗?

很好的建议,可惜时机不对,现在各大专的辩论员都有心病,恐怕没有肚量参与辩论联赛。
发表于 2005-1-5 16:45:14 | 显示全部楼层

以足球联赛的形式办辩论,可能吗?

心病要靠心药医。
不过,个人认为大马各队还不至于仇人相见吧,而且强队也会有强队的风范。只要建议可行,还是能够做到的。
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